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		<title>Comment on HEALTH REFORM: This Time It&#8217;s All or Nothing by hd vector</title>
		<link>http://vermontforsinglepayer.org/blog/2011/01/health-reform-this-time-its-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-3031</link>
		<dc:creator>hd vector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 04:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot, just what i needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, just what i needed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fertile Ground for a Single Payer Bill by Charles Bateman</title>
		<link>http://vermontforsinglepayer.org/blog/2011/05/664/comment-page-1/#comment-3030</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 01:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to Vermont for being the first to bring single payer to the people of Vermont BRAVO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to Vermont for being the first to bring single payer to the people of Vermont BRAVO</p>
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		<title>Comment on HEALTH REFORM: This Time It&#8217;s All or Nothing by Nicholas Burton</title>
		<link>http://vermontforsinglepayer.org/blog/2011/01/health-reform-this-time-its-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-3029</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 16:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!

As a immigrant from the UK, I find healthcare in the USA complicated, burdensome and riddled with anomalies.

However European systems are not perfect either, and I would ring a cautionary note about those. The British system specifically has in the last 20 years suffered from an inflated highly paid middle and upper management structure (bureaucracy). This has tended to divert significant funding from the lower tiers where medicine is actually practiced, and as a consequence driven more ideology than good medicine.

Perhaps the most cost-effective driver is in the pharma market allowing the UK as a single entity to negotiate drug and equipment prices.

However, I wish Vermont well in its endeavor, and look forward to seeing its success adopted by other states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
<p>As a immigrant from the UK, I find healthcare in the USA complicated, burdensome and riddled with anomalies.</p>
<p>However European systems are not perfect either, and I would ring a cautionary note about those. The British system specifically has in the last 20 years suffered from an inflated highly paid middle and upper management structure (bureaucracy). This has tended to divert significant funding from the lower tiers where medicine is actually practiced, and as a consequence driven more ideology than good medicine.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most cost-effective driver is in the pharma market allowing the UK as a single entity to negotiate drug and equipment prices.</p>
<p>However, I wish Vermont well in its endeavor, and look forward to seeing its success adopted by other states.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SHUMLIN&#8217;S BILL: The Glass Is Half Full by Mr. Fastcash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fastcash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 23:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply couldn&#039;t leave your site before suggesting that I really loved the standard information a person supply for your guests? Is gonna be back often in order to investigate cross-check new posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply couldn&#8217;t leave your site before suggesting that I really loved the standard information a person supply for your guests? Is gonna be back often in order to investigate cross-check new posts</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Proposal Only the Beginning of a Process by James Duncan</title>
		<link>http://vermontforsinglepayer.org/blog/2011/04/the-health-care-proposal-only-the-beginning-of-a-process/comment-page-1/#comment-3019</link>
		<dc:creator>James Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David Galland  A lot of new expenses from this system would be covered by more efficient payment systems as well as greatly reduced administrative costs. As well, there is much less expensive waste in the form of unneeded emergency room visits.

For me as a self-employed person, the $9K - 12K annual cost for health insurance is in effect a tax, plain and simple. It&#039;s something that I can&#039;t escape - like death and taxes. I pay for that along with federal and state income taxes. If this health insurance cost suddenly went away, my taxes would have to go up about 30% in my current scenario before I&#039;d lose ground in this single payer system.

I don&#039;t think the single payer people have adequately explained the real world favorable financial tradeoffs as I describe them here.

I&#039;m nearing Medicare - fortunately - getting and maintaining health insurance has been a huge life hassle.  There&#039;s no excuse for this in the &quot;world&#039;s best country&quot;.  Fortunately I&#039;ve had the means and brains to keep health insurance.  Too many other people don&#039;t, and that&#039;s a socially costly problem which after many decades the health insurance industry cannot solve and never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David Galland  A lot of new expenses from this system would be covered by more efficient payment systems as well as greatly reduced administrative costs. As well, there is much less expensive waste in the form of unneeded emergency room visits.</p>
<p>For me as a self-employed person, the $9K &#8211; 12K annual cost for health insurance is in effect a tax, plain and simple. It&#8217;s something that I can&#8217;t escape &#8211; like death and taxes. I pay for that along with federal and state income taxes. If this health insurance cost suddenly went away, my taxes would have to go up about 30% in my current scenario before I&#8217;d lose ground in this single payer system.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the single payer people have adequately explained the real world favorable financial tradeoffs as I describe them here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m nearing Medicare &#8211; fortunately &#8211; getting and maintaining health insurance has been a huge life hassle.  There&#8217;s no excuse for this in the &#8220;world&#8217;s best country&#8221;.  Fortunately I&#8217;ve had the means and brains to keep health insurance.  Too many other people don&#8217;t, and that&#8217;s a socially costly problem which after many decades the health insurance industry cannot solve and never will.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fertile Ground for a Single Payer Bill by Garrett Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 23:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this illuminating account of Vermont&#039;s journey to Single Payer. It is a landmark story that inspires all of us to continue our individual and collective efforts and not to give up. Vermont is indeed a wonderful inspiration. Thanks to everyone who has worked so hard for so many years. 
Garrett Adams, President, Physicians for a National Health Program</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this illuminating account of Vermont&#8217;s journey to Single Payer. It is a landmark story that inspires all of us to continue our individual and collective efforts and not to give up. Vermont is indeed a wonderful inspiration. Thanks to everyone who has worked so hard for so many years.<br />
Garrett Adams, President, Physicians for a National Health Program</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Proposal Only the Beginning of a Process by Living in NH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Living in NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 13:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Gallard.

You are welcome to live in the &quot;Live Poor and Die Poor&quot; state of NH.  Since you are considering Hanover, obviously you are all set financially.  Me, I will move my business and open up new businesses in VT when single payer becomes reality. As a dual Euro/US citizen, I can tell you that the European system of addressing health care works. Germany is second in exports behind China.   
The US health care system is broken.  No matter how much money you have, in many medical instances it will make no difference.  I now wait three months or more to see one of my doctors.  Accessing my health records is a nightmare.  And the &quot;for profit&quot; motivation of doctors must constantly be considered each and every time I seek medical help.
In my business, and any business in the US, it is difficult to attract new hires because of the convoluted nature of health benefit offerings.  Good employees won&#039;t go to work elsewhere if they have decent benefits so I don&#039;t get the best employees because of this wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Gallard.</p>
<p>You are welcome to live in the &#8220;Live Poor and Die Poor&#8221; state of NH.  Since you are considering Hanover, obviously you are all set financially.  Me, I will move my business and open up new businesses in VT when single payer becomes reality. As a dual Euro/US citizen, I can tell you that the European system of addressing health care works. Germany is second in exports behind China.<br />
The US health care system is broken.  No matter how much money you have, in many medical instances it will make no difference.  I now wait three months or more to see one of my doctors.  Accessing my health records is a nightmare.  And the &#8220;for profit&#8221; motivation of doctors must constantly be considered each and every time I seek medical help.<br />
In my business, and any business in the US, it is difficult to attract new hires because of the convoluted nature of health benefit offerings.  Good employees won&#8217;t go to work elsewhere if they have decent benefits so I don&#8217;t get the best employees because of this wall.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fertile Ground for a Single Payer Bill by Lee Burch</title>
		<link>http://vermontforsinglepayer.org/blog/2011/05/664/comment-page-1/#comment-3013</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Burch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 03:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed reading how the new health care law came into being over the years.  I am so grateful to be in Vermont.  I am reminded of something Mother Theresa said that I thought about a lot over the past year.  I am glad the people of Vermont remembered this: 
&quot;If we have no peace,
 it is because 
 we have forgotten
 that we belong to each other.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed reading how the new health care law came into being over the years.  I am so grateful to be in Vermont.  I am reminded of something Mother Theresa said that I thought about a lot over the past year.  I am glad the people of Vermont remembered this:<br />
&#8220;If we have no peace,<br />
 it is because<br />
 we have forgotten<br />
 that we belong to each other.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on SHUMLIN&#8217;S BILL: The Glass Is Half Full by Mary Dillion</title>
		<link>http://vermontforsinglepayer.org/blog/2011/03/shumlins-bill-the-glass-is-half-full/comment-page-1/#comment-3011</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Dillion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 15:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Job Vermont!  The Northeast is always ahead in their
intelligent decisions.   You have a great senator in
Bernie Sanders.  

We envy you - we have a republican dictator in Ohio by the name of
John Kasich, and he is ruining our state.  Robbing from the middle
class, and the poor giving to the rich corporations.  Paying his
staff huge salaries.  

Keep up the good work you set a fine example for the rest of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Job Vermont!  The Northeast is always ahead in their<br />
intelligent decisions.   You have a great senator in<br />
Bernie Sanders.  </p>
<p>We envy you &#8211; we have a republican dictator in Ohio by the name of<br />
John Kasich, and he is ruining our state.  Robbing from the middle<br />
class, and the poor giving to the rich corporations.  Paying his<br />
staff huge salaries.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work you set a fine example for the rest of the country.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Proposal Only the Beginning of a Process by David Galland</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Galland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 22:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a small, but significant, employer in Vermont, I must toss a little cold water on this discussion. The fact is that Vermont is already one of the highest tax states in the United States (fact, look it up). Raising taxes will, therefore, only discourage new businesses from setting up and will, in all likelihood, cause businesses to actually leave the state. Even, perhaps, IBM and other &quot;big businesses&quot; (boo, hiss). 

What then? Will the state then have to tax more to make up for the exodus? Could an economic death spiral begin? Now, I know that I am not writing this post for an audience that is likely to agree with me, but it is important, as Vermonters, to understand that actions actually have consequences. When society begins to adopt what is called &quot;positive rights&quot; -- to wit, the right to low or no cost health care for those who can&#039;t afford it, it is a slippery slope. Why not a comfortable house, or three square meals? Surely those are as important? The problem is that we as a nation are broke (again, check the facts). Can we as a people come together to make sure that the truly needy are looked after? Sure. But chasing the productive members of this society out by taking an ever increasing amount of their wealth will have predictable consequences. 

Don&#039;t get me wrong. I am happy to pay my fair share (which, at this point, is about 46%, all in, by a conservative calculation) - but when it gets over 50%, then I become a slave to the state and, well, that&#039;s just not going to happen. 

Now, fire away, unleash whatever invective you might - but the truth is, raise my taxes significantly and I&#039;ll be corresponding from another state. Actually, I rather like Hanover, N.H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a small, but significant, employer in Vermont, I must toss a little cold water on this discussion. The fact is that Vermont is already one of the highest tax states in the United States (fact, look it up). Raising taxes will, therefore, only discourage new businesses from setting up and will, in all likelihood, cause businesses to actually leave the state. Even, perhaps, IBM and other &#8220;big businesses&#8221; (boo, hiss). </p>
<p>What then? Will the state then have to tax more to make up for the exodus? Could an economic death spiral begin? Now, I know that I am not writing this post for an audience that is likely to agree with me, but it is important, as Vermonters, to understand that actions actually have consequences. When society begins to adopt what is called &#8220;positive rights&#8221; &#8212; to wit, the right to low or no cost health care for those who can&#8217;t afford it, it is a slippery slope. Why not a comfortable house, or three square meals? Surely those are as important? The problem is that we as a nation are broke (again, check the facts). Can we as a people come together to make sure that the truly needy are looked after? Sure. But chasing the productive members of this society out by taking an ever increasing amount of their wealth will have predictable consequences. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. I am happy to pay my fair share (which, at this point, is about 46%, all in, by a conservative calculation) &#8211; but when it gets over 50%, then I become a slave to the state and, well, that&#8217;s just not going to happen. </p>
<p>Now, fire away, unleash whatever invective you might &#8211; but the truth is, raise my taxes significantly and I&#8217;ll be corresponding from another state. Actually, I rather like Hanover, N.H.</p>
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